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Post by Steelers 1954 on Dec 17, 2020 14:22:35 GMT -5
Don't know if anyone has paid attention but I transferred Ownership/League Manager to Dive some time ago.
Yes it is written that all owners will have a say in the operation of the league but just as it is in the real world not everyone is willing to give their input. Dive I hope you have better luck in getting everyone involved in how to make the league better or you will have to do as I did and make some on your own & hope everyone agrees.
My job here is done I started the league and tried to make the settings fun for everyone, where it goes from here is up to all of you.
I no longer have the desire, time or energy to try and make this league the best it can be. I've got other things going on in my life that need my attention more.
Cutting the chase and getting to the point I will not be back next year, maybe some time in the future if an opening comes available I'll come back.
I'll still be in other leagues with most of you just not in this one.
Take care my friends love ya all.
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Post by craig440 on Dec 17, 2020 16:59:47 GMT -5
This makes me sad
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Post by Jeppers on Dec 17, 2020 20:54:20 GMT -5
What league are we referring to?
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Post by craig440 on Dec 17, 2020 21:25:09 GMT -5
What league are we referring to? The keeper league, graveyard hive.
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Post by Jeppers on Dec 18, 2020 12:14:35 GMT -5
What league are we referring to? The keeper league, graveyard hive. Well that’s disappointing 🙁
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Post by craig440 on Dec 18, 2020 13:55:12 GMT -5
The keeper league, graveyard hive. Well that’s disappointing 🙁 Agree. With all the fine hard work Jeffrey did for us I'm not sure the league will survive. I know I can't do all the lists he does. I don't think anyway.
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Post by Divebitch on Dec 18, 2020 20:16:34 GMT -5
Very saddened to hear this. You wanna talk about it? With me, or anyone, or everyone? I knew I was co-LM, but that's it - had no idea you transferred ownership to me. IDK how one would even do that. Well, the keepers are a pain, but I can certainly do it. We had a brief bit of ugliness regarding the RBs in the beginning, but it seemed to work itself out. And although the loudest voice just missed the playoffs, he got the 2nd most 'pts for', which IMO is the very strongest indication of who had the best team - not the place you finished. (At your NFFL league, I had probably the 2nd best team. Sit start mistakes, and injuries. Didn't make the playoffs. Happens all the time, boo hoo.) Point is, I'm not gonna do polls that, as you said, go ignored. Ronin, and I hope he's feeling much better, will now know that anyone can draft however they want. I think he was totally unprepared for how they'd be drafted due to their relative value. More I think about it, as much as I'd like to limit to RBs to 7 or 8, it would have to be a max (if any) of 8. That would at least satisfy packdog and would annoy Dirtybird, but maybe he'd come around. The only other changes I'd make (speak now or forever hold your piece) is 1) put the RB/WR/TE back to 7-8-9th round, due to the fact it's a) 10 teams, b) the late draft rounds no longer transfer in a trade, and c) there are only 3 keepers, make them count. Oh, up the values of kickers, make it less attractive to not start one. lol Seriously, we've upgraded other positions much more. Take a look at upgrading DEF, but they might be okay. And that's it. Jeffrey, it would not be the Graveyard without you. Hope you reconsider.
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Post by Steelers 1954 on Dec 20, 2020 11:26:49 GMT -5
This makes me sad Sorry that your sad my friend but we talked and I told where I stood and that there was a high possibility that I was leaving.
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Post by Steelers 1954 on Dec 20, 2020 12:05:34 GMT -5
This is not just a spur of the moment thing I've been thinking about this for some time. The start of this season is just part of the reason why I'm leaving. put the RB/WR/TE back to 7-8-9th round, The FA values for keeping a QB/RB (6th), WR (7th), TE (8th)is not the problem. I'd like to limit to RBs to 7 or 8, it would have to be a max (if any) of 8. This is the problem hoarding running backs. The RB position is one of the weakest positions other than TE and everyone should know this. Having a limit of 8 does nothing to stop 2 teams from taking most of the top RB's you're right back to where we where this year. If you don't want to limit the backs then you drop one of the RB/WR/TE flex spots therefore eliminating the need for so many backs. This is part of what is so frustrating you don't want limits on the backs, you don't want to take away one of the flex spots, and you don't want to change the score settings for RB's. Something has to give, it could be doing one of the three things or a combination of all three to help solve the problem. But since I will no longer be a part of the league it's not my place to say what you should do that will be something you have to decide.
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Post by craig440 on Dec 20, 2020 17:01:50 GMT -5
This makes me sad Sorry that your sad my friend but we talked and I told where I stood and that there was a high possibility that I was leaving. I know but it still is sad you are maybe leaving this league.
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Post by Divebitch on Dec 21, 2020 18:21:00 GMT -5
This is not just a spur of the moment thing I've been thinking about this for some time. The start of this season is just part of the reason why I'm leaving. put the RB/WR/TE back to 7-8-9th round, The FA values for keeping a QB/RB (6th), WR (7th), TE (8th)is not the problem. I'd like to limit to RBs to 7 or 8, it would have to be a max (if any) of 8. This is the problem hoarding running backs. The RB position is one of the weakest positions other than TE and everyone should know this. Having a limit of 8 does nothing to stop 2 teams from taking most of the top RB's you're right back to where we where this year. If you don't want to limit the backs then you drop one of the RB/WR/TE flex spots therefore eliminating the need for so many backs. This is part of what is so frustrating you don't want limits on the backs, you don't want to take away one of the flex spots, and you don't want to change the score settings for RB's. Something has to give, it could be doing one of the three things or a combination of all three to help solve the problem. But since I will no longer be a part of the league it's not my place to say what you should do that will be something you have to decide. Well how about the 4th thing? And that is that you draft accordingly. I appreciate the fact the newbie to our leagues might be unprepared if he hasn't examined the setting or what players scored previous year(s). Honestly I feel this 4th thing is the answer. If everybody hoards RBs, then we'll all get bargains at WR later. But it's the nature of the beast. No matter what forms the beast takes. You adjust. Extra flex, great, .5 a rush, great, no limit on RBs great. Point is, and same as I expressed, along with a few others long ago, is that everyone has the same opportunity to hoard or not. You can tweak the setting an infinite number of ways. It is up to you/me/us to examine, interpret, adjust. Again, I'd hesitate to limit the draft and cap, as we have 2 people here that would be highly upset, one said he'd leave. I could go either way or the 7, 8 or none, but surely not 6 max. At any rate, I'm not convinced anything 'has to give' if we're all aware of the rules. Believe me, I can appreciate the frustration if you hadn't been. You're selective in your leagues, go in with the best of intentions, and after the draft feel you've kinda been bamboozled. I swear I get it. But you can't blame the hoarders. IDK if you remember Dstep had a crazy league 1 year, all about the QBs. Fun for me cuz I read the settings, actually tossed someone a QB, I had 4 or 5. Anyway, you've done nothing wrong here, it's a great league. I think we all appreciate Mike sticking with it. And hope you will too.
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