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Post by Steelers 1954 on Dec 21, 2018 0:14:59 GMT -5
I told ya'll Eddie had placed the CTM ProBoard on Maintenance Mode and has done exactly what I thought he was going to do. He has deleted 1 Thread started by Craig that I don't see now and has removed almost all the harsh words he said about us in all the other threads he posted in during his meltdown.
A little too late but he has posted an apology to all of us. He can't change what has been done by deleting post,he only did that so the others who were not on will not see the harsh ,disrespectful,& uncalled for comments.
He maybe truly sorry but the damage has been done and there's nothing he can do now to change that, I think he has finally realized that he's all by himself. I hope he is sincere in his apology but I am still done with it all.
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Post by Divebitch on Dec 21, 2018 5:54:48 GMT -5
Here is something I started to reply to over there, but later figured 'what's the use? He'll never get it". It was in response to Craig/larryB who said: "Here is how I feel Edward. You think people owe you respect, like you are the god father or something. Respect is earned in the real world. I know you have been having a hard time and I feel for you. When you get so drunk you don't remember the very vile things you say to me and about my family I have forgave you several times. The thing is your attitude after that happens. You act like it is my fault. You continue with the PC shit and that I have given in to my liberal family. I love my family. It's just ridiculous the crap you say. You are not a victim here, I am not a pussy or sucking my sisters teet. So this is fair well son. Its time for you to grow up and take responsibility. I wish the best for you. So for that reason I am out. Craig and Larryb." Read more: cutthemustard.proboards.com/thread/1242/most-soft#ixzz5aE3oDdKi (I'll bet it's gone, but not ready to go back there) =========================================================================================== I think you’re almost on to something here. It’s painfully obvious that the reason he’s so super-sensitive to the slightest unapproving comment is cuz he’s got no respect for himself. When you don’t respect yourself, you can’t respect anyone else that shows you respect. Eddie, IDK what someone did to you in your life that you relate every interaction with anybody in terms of respect. You seem obsessed with it, probably because you are so lacking any. Any comment by anyone that is not 100% in accord with what Eddie feels and believes is someone a sign of disrespect. He's harbored all that forever, and only his fear of something like this has kept it in check for this long. So you finally got a little taste of his true wrath. I was not surprised in the least he came at me again for exposing him 6 months ago, for his disgusting, violent half-day long tirade. I never felt regret or cause for apologies about doing so. If anyone wants to hear some phone messages, I'd be happy to forward them. When you continue to forgive abuse, you begin to lose respect for yourself. And his was more frequent than I even let on. He'd start on a political rant (you know me, I have no interest in even getting involved) that would escalate to yelling, name calling, and I'd just have to hang up. So enough was enough. Even after we could finally be civil, I wanted nothing to do with him on any level but fantasy football. Funny danb6177 mentioned posts at 1 AM, deletions by 3. Seems 12 - 4 AM were his darkest most drunken hours, gone on since we knew him, 2010. No Steelers 1954, he is not sincere. 'Fool me once shame on you, fool me 100+ times, shame on me'. It took everyone leaving to apologize? He PMed packdog to say 'can you believe what they're doing?!?' Does that sound sorry? He's a manipulator. Here's what else I think... he uses alcohol as an excuse, like a free pass to unleash his toxic vitriole, summoned by many inner demons. Cuz mental illness, or at least his level of unbalance, is even more embarrassing than alcoholism to the point of total blackout. IOW, I fully believe he remembers what he does. The ugliest he got with me in June was a couple hours after he was drunk at 8:30 AM. After his incoherent (but far more sober) assault went into late morning and afternoon, I *think* he later blamed his 'blackout' on Ambien. You can usually see in his typing, there are few if any typos, the words and grammar are clear. I don't feel sorry for him anymore.
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Post by Steelers 1954 on Dec 21, 2018 21:09:37 GMT -5
Eddie has posted another apology in his thread, I know you had to see that didn't you Jeff. He called me tonight but I didn't want to talk to him, not ready for that.
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Post by craig440 on Dec 21, 2018 21:18:31 GMT -5
What does his appology say? He can't call or text me. I blocked him when I was getting texts late at night with crazy stuff even for Eddie. This may be a wake up call for him. That would be a good thing. I think.
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Post by Steelers 1954 on Dec 21, 2018 21:22:28 GMT -5
Here's what it says
Me too. I'm kicking myself in the ass as I speak right now. Can't believe the shit I said, and how retarded it was. It wasn't even related to any topics at hand? It was just pure retardation on my part.
Whether or not we continue fantasy football leagues together is one thing, but I hope everyone can find it in their hearts to forgive me as friends.
I know, it feels like forever. Great people that were still willing to overlook what I was going through, but I kept it coming. I was in a stupor all week long.
Just now saw all that was said by myself and others. Couldn't be more embarrassed and ashamed.
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Post by craig440 on Dec 21, 2018 21:27:43 GMT -5
Wow. I can't believe he may be humbled. He needs that to maybe help with his real life.
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Post by Steelers 1954 on Dec 21, 2018 21:39:14 GMT -5
In a way it's a shame that it took all of us leaving, I hope he really has learned a lesson in all this. He needs that to maybe help with his real life. I hope so.
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Post by Divebitch on Dec 21, 2018 21:45:53 GMT -5
More and more desperate attempts at pity, kinda what he had the balls to say I was looking for after his barrage(s). lol Is anything more sick. Craig, curb your enthusiasm, and go with the 'I can't believe' part. Are any of you are still believing he "was in a stupor all week long"?!?! Know anyone who's ever done that?!? It is 100% a bald face lie. lmao
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Post by craig440 on Dec 21, 2018 21:51:16 GMT -5
I mean come on. Steeler and I are older than his dad. He's younger than my oldest child. But we all care because of the years of camaraderie. He probably doesn't have friends where he lives now. I hope we helped teach him something.
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Post by Steelers 1954 on Dec 21, 2018 23:54:50 GMT -5
"was in a stupor all week long"? I don't think he's using that as an excuse this time for once he's admitting that he a crossed line that should not have been crossed. Said things that he shouldn't have said and pushed too far when he could have /should have stopped but didn't. As a group we did something we've never done before, we didn't look the other way this time. We let our feelings be known that we had reached our limit and were leaving. I hope he has truly learned a lesson from all this that you can't treat friends or anyone that way an not expect to get backlash from it. Are any of you are still believing he "was in a stupor all week long"? No I don't believe that and like you've said before pretty good job of typing without errors for someone that's completely shit faced. I've been really drunk before and had trouble just seeing straight let alone trying to write something. Only time will tell if he truly means it.
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Post by Divebitch on Dec 22, 2018 13:51:37 GMT -5
"was in a stupor all week long"? I don't think he's using that as an excuse this time for once he's admitting that he a crossed line that should not have been crossed. Said things that he shouldn't have said and pushed too far when he could have /should have stopped but didn't. As a group we did something we've never done before, we didn't look the other way this time. We let our feelings be known that we had reached our limit and were leaving. I hope he has truly learned a lesson from all this that you can't treat friends or anyone that way an not expect to get backlash from it. Are any of you are still believing he "was in a stupor all week long"? No I don't believe that and like you've said before pretty good job of typing without errors for someone that's completely shit faced. I've been really drunk before and had trouble just seeing straight let alone trying to write something. Only time will tell if he truly means it. Well, he attacked not just me, but you, Craig, and I believe Dan. And hope this doesn't sound a little angry, but while no one condoned what he did to me in June, no one threatened to leave or really read him the riot act. Everyone moved on quickly, while Eddie made it sound (and still does) like I'm the crazy bitch, and even partially to blame for his vile attacks. Now when it's directed to you guys, the heart and soul of the core group, you've finally had enough. Only Jeppers went unscathed cuz not only did he stay out of that thread, but I think their political views are the most similar. As far as being in a stupor all week long, that was his excuse until last night, a couple days after we all left. How are we gonna know if time will tell? Have you already forgiven him? lol Seriously, how much time? Is another 8 years enough? I haven't seen him doing anything to improve his situation down there since he moved 8/2017. Do you see him getting therapy and going to rehab any time soon? Finally looking for a job, much less getting one? IDK where all that alcohol could even be coming from TBH.
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Post by danb6177 on Dec 22, 2018 15:16:13 GMT -5
I don't think he's using that as an excuse this time for once he's admitting that he a crossed line that should not have been crossed. Said things that he shouldn't have said and pushed too far when he could have /should have stopped but didn't. As a group we did something we've never done before, we didn't look the other way this time. We let our feelings be known that we had reached our limit and were leaving. I hope he has truly learned a lesson from all this that you can't treat friends or anyone that way an not expect to get backlash from it. No I don't believe that and like you've said before pretty good job of typing without errors for someone that's completely shit faced. I've been really drunk before and had trouble just seeing straight let alone trying to write something. Only time will tell if he truly means it. Well, he attacked not just me, but you, Craig, and I believe Dan. And hope this doesn't sound a little angry, but while no one condoned what he did to me in June, no one threatened to leave or really read him the riot act. Everyone moved on quickly, while Eddie made it sound (and still does) like I'm the crazy bitch, and even partially to blame for his vile attacks. Now when it's directed to you guys, the heart and soul of the core group, you've finally had enough. Only Jeppers went unscathed cuz not only did he stay out of that thread, but I think their political views are the most similar. As far as being in a stupor all week long, that was his excuse until last night, a couple days after we all left. How are we gonna know if time will tell? Have you already forgiven him? lol Seriously, how much time? Is another 8 years enough? I haven't seen him doing anything to improve his situation down there since he moved 8/2017. Do you see him getting therapy and going to rehab any time soon? Finally looking for a job, much less getting one? IDK where all that alcohol could even be coming from TBH. I’ve not seen if he said anything about me. I haven’t logged in there and don’t plan to. He’s gonna make it about you no matter what. But I would think us leaving the CTM and staying with you dive would speak better than going in there and trying to argue with someone that thinks they can do no wrong. Eddie identifies his life with that forum so when everyone is gone he will have to reflect. Maybe that’s what Jeff means by time will tell.
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Post by Divebitch on Dec 22, 2018 16:40:06 GMT -5
Well, he attacked not just me, but you, Craig, and I believe Dan. And hope this doesn't sound a little angry, but while no one condoned what he did to me in June, no one threatened to leave or really read him the riot act. Everyone moved on quickly, while Eddie made it sound (and still does) like I'm the crazy bitch, and even partially to blame for his vile attacks. Now when it's directed to you guys, the heart and soul of the core group, you've finally had enough. Only Jeppers went unscathed cuz not only did he stay out of that thread, but I think their political views are the most similar. As far as being in a stupor all week long, that was his excuse until last night, a couple days after we all left. How are we gonna know if time will tell? Have you already forgiven him? lol Seriously, how much time? Is another 8 years enough? I haven't seen him doing anything to improve his situation down there since he moved 8/2017. Do you see him getting therapy and going to rehab any time soon? Finally looking for a job, much less getting one? IDK where all that alcohol could even be coming from TBH. I’ve not seen if he said anything about me. I haven’t logged in there and don’t plan to. He’s gonna make it about you no matter what. But I would think us leaving the CTM and staying with you dive would speak better than going in there and trying to argue with someone that thinks they can do no wrong. Eddie identifies his life with that forum so when everyone is gone he will have to reflect. Maybe that’s what Jeff means by time will tell. You might be right. Now that I look at it, when you posted: "I think crossing personal Life and FF is probably a bad idea. Perhaps you should work out your real Life man. Coming here and calling people pussies and everything else you can think of because your having a rough go is a cop out. You can’t say don’t argue with me because my life is fucked up and then start to argue with people. It makes zero sense and if it continues your probably gonna lose some people. I personally am done listening to it. I like the league but you have near destroyed the forum with your inability to deal with difference of opinion. Just my 2 cents. Take a break man" He didn't quote you, but he soon mentioned you with this: "I feel bad for people like Dan. You mothorerfuckers don't derserve my attention no more." So IDK what he meant, it was a non-sequitur. Like 'feel bad' and 'like Dan' could be taken 2 ways. Probably meant it the better way, or else he would've gone off on you. Interesting take. That forum might be all he feels he has left for any means whatsoever of the 'respect' he lacks and craves. Again, IDK how anyone will be able to tell if 'time will tell'. To do that, you have to give him a 100th chance to prove anything's changed. Would be 'shame on me' for y'all cuz this is by far the worst one.
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